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mr. Hitchcock can do you like birds I'm

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quite indifferent to them they serve

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their purpose on occasion which purpose

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would that have been for you well it was

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the matter of making a little movie

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about a modest little affair premises

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are you really modest about this picture

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or do you like it particularly well it's

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different you know one always tries to

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meet a challenge I think just doing an

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ordinary picture of what I call

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photographs of people talking you are

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down so the challenge was to take the

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subject and see if it could be made to

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work I think there was a rather

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particular challenge about this picture

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which was working with birds really was

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it fair that was the technical challenge

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of course it's a very involved technical

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process and the mere fact that I am able

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to shoot a picture to photograph a

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picture with the cutting in mind and we

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were able to train the birds for each

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individual cut in other words we

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couldn't take the necessary whole long

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scenes and expect the birds to behave

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for about four or five minutes but the

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manner of the montage permitted the bird

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to be trained for a very short period

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such as flying after a child and landing

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on its shoulder that I would be able to

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go to a close-up of it biting and so for

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the Virts I mean looked rather terrible

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were they actually um the seagulls

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Meopta : the seagulls are vicious they

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are scavenger Birds and the trainer's

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win handily

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them had to wear very heavy gloves

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because instinctively they bite because

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I was catching fish and so forth the

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crows the core call you call Coble the

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Cobo they were to be trained they varied

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some were vicious some were very

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friendly now that was the technical

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sentence but there are other challenges

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which ones well the challenge out the

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whole analogy of the film that it the

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theme is that man must be responsible to

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nature he cannot assume that nature is

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always beneficial the beautiful scenery

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the sea the sky the trees everything he

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enjoys in the opening of the film we

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show how he treats birds animals he

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thinks that they should be nice cage

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isn't very happy and so forth now the

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film shows that man doesn't takes nature

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for granted but if it turns on him then

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he's in trouble for example he digs

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uranium from the ground and aleca the

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trouble he's in for that what is is that

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the whole theme of the picture or are

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there other themes leather there's a

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general theme that in in this respect of

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man's shall we say taking nature for

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granted

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makes him complacent he thinks he's the

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master of everything but a man in a

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thunderstorm if he is afraid at all or

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you see a woman in a thunderstorm she

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immediately goes under the table in fear

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nature is there in its most fiercest I

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don't think they've ever been able to

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make an atom bomb with anything like

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power of a thunderstorm missus and the

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birds is your first picture and it's

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picture was Alfred Hitchcock yes now I'd

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like you very much to tell us your very

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first car

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Thanks which hits go how low do well you

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know mr. Hitchcock put me through a

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suspense thriller for about three days I

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received a phone call saying that a

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producer had seen me on a television

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commercial and the gentleman asked if I

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would bring over pictures and any film

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that I had so I did and while we were

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talking I said well won't you tell me

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who this producer is and he just got a

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grin on his face and wouldn't say no and

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this was on Friday the 13th so this is

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all of sudden my lucky day and then

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Monday morning I had to meet somebody

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else and Monday afternoon I met someone

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else and nobody they still wouldn't tell

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me who the producer was so on Tuesday

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morning I met mr. Hitchcock's agent and

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he told me that mr. Hitchcock wanted to

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sign me to a contract what was the

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feeling you got at that moment well you

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know I I was so stunned I didn't know

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whether to laugh or cry or you know run

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up and down the halls and is the first

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conflict good is he putting you at ease

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oh very much so yes we had a we had

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lunch in his office and we discussed all

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of a variety of subjects then you came

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into contact with that subject didn't it

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seemed very horrible to you just me no

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well at this point I didn't know that it

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was good that about the birds you see

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this was simply a address to find out

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what potential I might have mm-hmm

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to see if I could act you know up until

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then I had only done television

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commercials what are the birds to you

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exactly what are the birds I mean the

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meaning of the picture no no no no the

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picture itself what does it mean to you

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it was it the terrifying experience was

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it uh for up for about two weeks I was

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terrified other than that I went through

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the picture without being frightened or

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or scared you know anything where I'm in

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the attic and the birds attacked me well

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it took seven days to shoot this picture

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this scene mm-hmm and it's

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on the screen approximately two minutes

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hmm and the they build a cage for me so

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they put me in the cage this time and in

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the cage with me was a cameraman and

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five prop men with cartons of crows and

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ravens and seagulls which they

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alternately flew at me for this these

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seven days live birds

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yes live birds uh-huh and I was

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scratched many times in bitten I had a

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good one right on a cheek right there

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and under my eye very close to my eye so

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at the end of this scene I just

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collapsed and was set to bed under

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doctor's orders for five days

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do you like birds still after me yes I

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do I have no real fear of the mind they

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never deliberately attacked me

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the seagulls are dangerous they're very

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extremely dangerous you've been living

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with the birds and birds for such a long

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time now how do you react to the picture